EPOC typing success!, Using the Epoc to type.
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22.01.10 10:11 PM
Hi all.
Well todays challenge was to use the EPOC to flawlessly type, well less than 10 minutes later: "Hello this is typed with the epoc" As you can see from the above sentence Success!!!!. I used Dasher which is a mouse based typing program. Avalable at http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ Using the gyro mouse and browraise. The browraise outputs a 'q' which is picked up by NeatTools and used to trigger the left mouse button. With this I was then able to generate a sentence with dasher, highlight it, copy, change window and paste the text into this post! Dasher is predictive, which speeds things up. Its very intuitive to use. Have fun! A |
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22.01.10 11:01 PM
Awesome stuff!
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23.01.10 1:45 AM
indeed. It even improved my shocking spelling! Dixleczia is areel pan in the rase.
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24.01.10 1:59 PM
yes i have the same problem! :p But they say it makes you more creative so its seems worth it!! Anyways, how long does it take you to type 100 words using the headset?
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Foxen; Putting the F back in Fysics since 1985. |
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24.01.10 10:34 PM
Dyslexia is not so bad. You probably see the condition as "daily sex"
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25.01.10 12:50 AM
 i'll remember that one |
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09.02.10 3:18 PM
Wow what an unusual approach ill have to try this with the headset.
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26.02.10 8:31 PM
Here is a youtube video which may be of interest for people who want to work with the Epoc and typing.
It shows Stanford research which is using a brain implant to achieve 15 words per minute to allow locked in patients to communicate via typing. Their method takes multiple feeds from the pre-motor cortex of the subject's left hemisphere while the subject is thinking about moving his/her right arm. Here's the link: The Stanford research seems to show that by concentrating all its data pickups in the pre-motor cortex, the fidelity and usability of the resulting signals is high. After watching the video I began to wonder if the Epoc could be adapted so that all the 16 pads could be concentrated into a 1 inch square area on the scalp near the pre-motor cortex? Perhaps by using a custom made scalp attachment with 16 wires which connect to the 16 Epoc sensors. I do understand that the Stanford research is based on an actual surgically implanted matrix of probes and that the Epoc is designed to pickup from the scalp. But perhaps the Stanford methodology is worth investigating?? I would be interested to hear other people's ideas and comments. Les Coogan P.S. You may also be interested in this amazing video which shows an historic moment in brain-computer interface evolution.
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- 26.02.10 8:58 PM
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26.02.10 9:05 PM
I read the thread title as EPIC Typing Success!
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01.03.10 4:30 PM
Thanks for reminding me. I have just posted a very quick youtube vid of using the EPOC to type. >HERE<
Using Dasher predictive mouse typing software and NEatTools to convert face movement (browraise) into mouse clicks. The video is all hands free using gyromouse and face controlled clicks. Sorry about the quality of the video, The software I used for it didn't like running at the same time as dasher. Normally using teh EPOC and dasher is very smooth and fast. In the vid it is jumpy which makes it much harder to control, but you get the idea. This set up is pretty much perfect for disabled users (para+quadroplegic) or anyone that has reasonable head control. A. |
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01.03.10 9:29 PM
Once again I am cooled out!
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02.03.10 9:13 AM
I carried out the same test with Dasher and Epoc.
It is amazing how fast you can type when you get used to it. One guy in our office could type faster with it then a keyboard.
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- 02.03.10 9:13 AM
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02.03.10 3:07 PM
 It also improves your spelling.
I might throw my keyboard away! |
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03.03.10 7:52 AM
Fast and predictive typing software using BCI devices is my goal with the Research Edition I will be purchasing and I will be posting all my results on my community forums I have set up (BCIForums)... Good to see others working to make this a reality... talking with our thoughts when these devices can be more and more mobile would be amazing!
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04.03.10 5:50 AM
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04.03.10 1:08 PM
May I know which version of Dasher you were using when you recorded the video?
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04.03.10 4:43 PM
Version 4.10 (I think) A. |
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06.03.10 11:17 PM
How come the mouse emulation software does not have button clicking? What use is a button-less mouse? Can you or I add a button to associate mouse buttons with any headset events?
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07.03.10 12:36 AM
Hi Mario,
Mouse button fuctionality has been added to the recent release of SDKs and will be released soon for consumer Control Panel after final testing. You have always been able to emulate mouse clicks using intermediate software such as GlovePie or NeatTools. We just didn't have a robust mouse click emulator ready for initial launch, and we weren't going to hold up the launch for that single feature. All fixed now  |
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10.03.10 5:47 PM
Hi gmac,
I have the development version 1.03 but don't see the mouse click feature in the Control panel. Is it hidden somewhere else? Thanks. |
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10.03.10 11:39 PM
It's part of EmoKey. Launch it from Start=>Programs=>Emotiv Development Kit vxxx=>Tools=>EmoKey after Control Panel is running. Click "Add Rule", double-click the "Keys" item and you will see Mouse Buttons as options in the key sequence
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12.03.10 3:34 AM
Thank you!
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15.06.10 5:32 PM
I'm interesting in using EPOC with Dasher for a person with a neurogenerative disease. The person is already an expert with the Dasher program, but now needs to learn to use it with EPOC rather than a motion detecting camera. COULD SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IF IT IS SUFFICIENT TO BUY THE CONSUMER VERSION OF EPOC. Or are there important advantages to buying a more advanced version or developer version or any special tools or applications. The person only needs to be able to move the mouse pointer to different parts of the screen and generate a click on the mouse over dasher (and if possible move the mouse over other applications in Windows Vista as well). Thank you very much for your help.
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16.06.10 4:43 AM
Hi James,
The consumer model will cope with what you want, except for the mouse click option (it's already available in SDK versions and is planned for next release with Consumer software - meantime it is not yet available). In special cases like this one I may persuade the boss to release a trial version of the consumer Control Panel allowing mouse clicks. Alternatively there are a few packages out there such as GlovePie and Jedi Mouse which let you map Emotiv detections to mouse clicks (GlovePie also emulates any controller type. The SDK models have one extra advantage - the Expressiv suite is more powerful with 3 extra expressions and the ability to retrain some of the Expressiv classifiers to suit someone with muscle damage, partial paralysis or asymmetric musculature. |
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